• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      He never pulled a trigger.

      He joined the SS in 1932 and was tasked with event security for political rallies which routinely became violent. And then he rose through the ranks of an organization dedicated to covert violence very quickly. So, I wouldn’t bank on that.

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        7 hours ago

        My point is that he killed, whether he was holding a gun or a pen; he caused people to die on purpose. He is a mudderer. I don’t give a shit if he ever pulled a trigger, and deserved much worse than the hanging he got. As do his modern counterparts.

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          6 hours ago

          he caused people to die on purpose. He is a mudderer.

          We can definitely talk about Social Murder as a phenomenon.

          But I think it’s a bit too cutesy by half to assert a man climbed his way up the ranks of the SS in the middle of an insurrection in order to lead its mass extermination division managed it without ever getting his hands dirty.

          I don’t give a shit if he ever pulled a trigger

          I think we’re going to see folks who come out of the ICE recruitment of the Trump Two era who will also rise through the ranks and become mass murderers. I think we’ve already got guys like that - Ron DeSantis famously oversaw torture at Guantanamo Bay as attendant legal counsel - in positions of power.

          They’ll all be able to look you in the face with dead fucking eyes and say “Prove I did anything wrong”. And I think quite a few liberals will nod and shrug and say “I guess the Rule of Law says we can’t do anything now that all the folks who could contradict this claim are in an unmarked grave”.

          This is the wedge that lets these creeps crawl into power to begin with. Willful ignorance of the crimes of this country only serve to give sociopaths a ladder to climb.

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      1 day ago

      The ‘I joined bcs I needed an education’ was the first excuse.
      This is the follow up.
      They have to rationalise it to themselves.
      As if there’s any reason to justify joining the worst and most prolific killing machine on the planet.

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        1 day ago

        To be fair it’s not the worst killing machine. Its nit like top 50% and itvus the most expensive, but it usually gets a pretty good amount of killing done.

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            1 day ago

            For pure numbers killed, i think russia wins. For efficiency per body dropped… When was the last time the Americans fully, like, won a war? Because it wasnt in my or my parents’ lifetime.

            And they got their asses handed to them pretty badly by guys who didnt all have shoes a couple times since their last win.