You and me are out there enjoying it (unless you are being sarcastic, then it’s just me out there in ignorant bliss).
I still don’t get why people are so opposed (it’s cheaper than the collection of apps required to do the same thing). The best reason I heard was it doesn’t work well on Linux, which I’m like duh - they don’t care about that demographic, like, at all. My best thinking is that maybe folks aren’t using all the features. I mean, one of them is a voiced Copilot summary of a meeting done by a man and woman, like they are talking about the meeting at the water-cooler. Truly terrible and amazing all at once.
I don’t know what alternative there is for my company. I just know that Teams is crap, but not nearly as bad as whatever the fuck SharePoint/OneDrive is. except for the integration of the two with Sites, and how permission management is a goddamn nightmare
and don’t get me started on version history and the lack of options for how to set that up. nah, they’d rather force you to pay for extra storage because you’re keeping 700 versions of a 50MB file from the past two weeks
For me is the low bar of quality assurance. It is so incredibly filled with bugs.
Wrong connection status, inconsistent connection status, sometimes decides to not receive any calls and ghost missing calls are a daily ocurrence in my group. Literally any of these bugs will happen 5+ times a day.
I’m also convinced it is the reason my Win10 install got borked and had to reinstall the whole OS.
I’ve had a number of programmer coworkers end up working for MS. They were without exception either a remarkable blend of incompetence and apathy, or wannabee product managers whose sole ambition was to never write a single line of code themselves ever again. I’m amazed that anything coming out of Redmond ever works at all.
When I worked at Boeing, for reasons that are completely unknown to me, they had features of some products (including Teams) disabled and were running versions that were quite behind. And it occurred to me that some people experience the tech this way. I wonder if that is happening for others who have negative experiences…
Often times it is because of limitations beyond the control of MS. Like, in my company we use MS products because they are the standard. But we have to work with the vendor and IT to selectively disable a group of features and updates. Because we are very secretive and confidentiality is paramount for very good reasons, it has nothing to do with trade secrets, it is about protecting people. Nothing can leave our servers, no telemetry, no AI, no automated cloud backups, no summary, no bots on meetings, no transcriptions, none of the usual crap they are constantly pushing for. Salesmen look at us like we are aliens, but it’s either that or we can’t do our job well. As a result, we are often left with lobotomized versions of the same apps. But at the same time, it shows how little those feature are actually useful or necessary. And in particular, how they are a prime point of failure and bugs.
Our Teams still fucks up connections from time to time. But it is usually because it forgets it is neutered and tries to do something it isn’t supposed to do and our VPNs nuke the connection. Like trying to call MS instead of our servers for telemetry, or trying to spin the module for a feature that doesn’t exist in our network. Then it becomes very obvious how buggy and ungraceful the whole app is. It can’t fail gracefully, it just craps itself and drags the whole computer with it.
I feel jelous. My company should have the same attitude due to the nature of data it proceses, but is the opposite. I’ve found some serious vulnerabilities and the only repercusion was me getting silenced.
I use MS teams on Linux all day long for work through web browser (I think it’s a PWA app?) and have no issues at all. I’m not saying I love MS teams but I am not running into any bugs with it. My only complaint is they used to have a ‘native’ Linux app that ran using something called electron that would allow for notifications in my desktop environment, whereas now in the browser I don’t get those, but that didn’t really end up being a problem.
Wait, you are running it in a browser? That would give a terrible experience and limited features (you probably miss out on that sweet voiced meeting recap). I can understand why you/anyone wouldn’t like that.
Check it out, teams.microsoft.com, I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything for my day to day work duties? I can lead meetings, screen share, use Copilot, calendar…all the “Teams” stuff like the tabs for onenote or planner or other apps (they’re all web based too). I guess I don’t feel like I’m missing out on any capability?
TBH I’d rather read a transcription than listen to two voices paraphrasing a meeting anyway.
You and me are out there enjoying it (unless you are being sarcastic, then it’s just me out there in ignorant bliss).
I still don’t get why people are so opposed (it’s cheaper than the collection of apps required to do the same thing). The best reason I heard was it doesn’t work well on Linux, which I’m like duh - they don’t care about that demographic, like, at all. My best thinking is that maybe folks aren’t using all the features. I mean, one of them is a voiced Copilot summary of a meeting done by a man and woman, like they are talking about the meeting at the water-cooler. Truly terrible and amazing all at once.
it’s buggy as shit, that’s why I don’t like it
I don’t know what alternative there is for my company. I just know that Teams is crap, but not nearly as bad as whatever the fuck SharePoint/OneDrive is. except for the integration of the two with Sites, and how permission management is a goddamn nightmare
and don’t get me started on version history and the lack of options for how to set that up. nah, they’d rather force you to pay for extra storage because you’re keeping 700 versions of a 50MB file from the past two weeks
For me is the low bar of quality assurance. It is so incredibly filled with bugs.
Wrong connection status, inconsistent connection status, sometimes decides to not receive any calls and ghost missing calls are a daily ocurrence in my group. Literally any of these bugs will happen 5+ times a day.
I’m also convinced it is the reason my Win10 install got borked and had to reinstall the whole OS.
I’ve had a number of programmer coworkers end up working for MS. They were without exception either a remarkable blend of incompetence and apathy, or wannabee product managers whose sole ambition was to never write a single line of code themselves ever again. I’m amazed that anything coming out of Redmond ever works at all.
When I worked at Boeing, for reasons that are completely unknown to me, they had features of some products (including Teams) disabled and were running versions that were quite behind. And it occurred to me that some people experience the tech this way. I wonder if that is happening for others who have negative experiences…
Often times it is because of limitations beyond the control of MS. Like, in my company we use MS products because they are the standard. But we have to work with the vendor and IT to selectively disable a group of features and updates. Because we are very secretive and confidentiality is paramount for very good reasons, it has nothing to do with trade secrets, it is about protecting people. Nothing can leave our servers, no telemetry, no AI, no automated cloud backups, no summary, no bots on meetings, no transcriptions, none of the usual crap they are constantly pushing for. Salesmen look at us like we are aliens, but it’s either that or we can’t do our job well. As a result, we are often left with lobotomized versions of the same apps. But at the same time, it shows how little those feature are actually useful or necessary. And in particular, how they are a prime point of failure and bugs.
Our Teams still fucks up connections from time to time. But it is usually because it forgets it is neutered and tries to do something it isn’t supposed to do and our VPNs nuke the connection. Like trying to call MS instead of our servers for telemetry, or trying to spin the module for a feature that doesn’t exist in our network. Then it becomes very obvious how buggy and ungraceful the whole app is. It can’t fail gracefully, it just craps itself and drags the whole computer with it.
I feel jelous. My company should have the same attitude due to the nature of data it proceses, but is the opposite. I’ve found some serious vulnerabilities and the only repercusion was me getting silenced.
In my case, nope, we run the most updated version. I’ve se en it update when I go to lunch.
I use MS teams on Linux all day long for work through web browser (I think it’s a PWA app?) and have no issues at all. I’m not saying I love MS teams but I am not running into any bugs with it. My only complaint is they used to have a ‘native’ Linux app that ran using something called electron that would allow for notifications in my desktop environment, whereas now in the browser I don’t get those, but that didn’t really end up being a problem.
Wait, you are running it in a browser? That would give a terrible experience and limited features (you probably miss out on that sweet voiced meeting recap). I can understand why you/anyone wouldn’t like that.
Check it out, teams.microsoft.com, I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything for my day to day work duties? I can lead meetings, screen share, use Copilot, calendar…all the “Teams” stuff like the tabs for onenote or planner or other apps (they’re all web based too). I guess I don’t feel like I’m missing out on any capability?
TBH I’d rather read a transcription than listen to two voices paraphrasing a meeting anyway.
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