Not disagreeing with any of this, but it’s not like people who don’t build PC’s dont have plenty of options of prebuilt ones from either high end 3rd party stores as well as low end ones. To me it’s just another option to add to a long list which due to the company name will definitely sell more than the others right off the bat.
The key difference is that the Steam Machine can be controlled 100% for the controller with a OS built to be controlled by the controller, and seen on a TV.
Windows doesn’t do that. It fuckin sucks to see on a TV because the UI is so small, and the controller only works in-game.
I am most excited for the OS progress. I will be putting whatever on my living room pc as soon as it’s released. I can’t stand using a mouse and keyboard in the living room and having to scoot close to the TV
Maybe its the games I have played but my last pc was connected to my tv exclusively for 5 years and never saw that UI issue. I definitely had issues that sometimes needed addressing, but that wasnt one. I thought it worked good enough, but yeah the keyboard and mouse was always annoying. I used the Logitech all in one which was pretty small and mouse pad on the right side from the couch. For the most part I used it more for video playback though so I was in Kodi a lot and I would then use my phone as the remote control.
The games are rarely the issue. It’s the OS in between the games, switching between games on Steam Big Picture and then to Jellyfin or similar for media, a web browser, and so on. You can do it with a wireless mouse or trackpad, but it’s a bit of a pain. SteamOS will presumably have a better UI for that.
Yeah I have 2 sound devices. And Windows chooses randomly every single time it resumes from Sleep, or Power Off.
My option if I don’t want to get a keyboard/mouse is to hold the Power button ot the controller for up to 10s and use the right analog to maneuver the mouse, and R1 to left click. There is no right -click best I can see.
If I hold the button for over 10s then the controller shuts off.
What a shit ass system. Who picks a key combo with the power button?
Lol, I also hate the RGB as well. I built mine a few years ago and it was annoying how badly it is just integrated into most parts now. Some had options where I could buy the same part without it, but some it was either buy it with it or get something else that was either lower end or higher end and not what I wanted at all. In the end it has a low glow and I just face that open window at a wall. Why can’t everything have a boring option like noctua fans.
Not disagreeing with any of this, but it’s not like people who don’t build PC’s dont have plenty of options of prebuilt ones from either high end 3rd party stores as well as low end ones. To me it’s just another option to add to a long list which due to the company name will definitely sell more than the others right off the bat.
The key difference is that the Steam Machine can be controlled 100% for the controller with a OS built to be controlled by the controller, and seen on a TV.
Windows doesn’t do that. It fuckin sucks to see on a TV because the UI is so small, and the controller only works in-game.
I am most excited for the OS progress. I will be putting whatever on my living room pc as soon as it’s released. I can’t stand using a mouse and keyboard in the living room and having to scoot close to the TV
Maybe its the games I have played but my last pc was connected to my tv exclusively for 5 years and never saw that UI issue. I definitely had issues that sometimes needed addressing, but that wasnt one. I thought it worked good enough, but yeah the keyboard and mouse was always annoying. I used the Logitech all in one which was pretty small and mouse pad on the right side from the couch. For the most part I used it more for video playback though so I was in Kodi a lot and I would then use my phone as the remote control.
The games are rarely the issue. It’s the OS in between the games, switching between games on Steam Big Picture and then to Jellyfin or similar for media, a web browser, and so on. You can do it with a wireless mouse or trackpad, but it’s a bit of a pain. SteamOS will presumably have a better UI for that.
Yeah I have 2 sound devices. And Windows chooses randomly every single time it resumes from Sleep, or Power Off.
My option if I don’t want to get a keyboard/mouse is to hold the Power button ot the controller for up to 10s and use the right analog to maneuver the mouse, and R1 to left click. There is no right -click best I can see.
If I hold the button for over 10s then the controller shuts off.
What a shit ass system. Who picks a key combo with the power button?
Choose: Big, bulky, shining with full RGB spectrum monster (low-end)
Or small funny box that Just Works.
Lol, I also hate the RGB as well. I built mine a few years ago and it was annoying how badly it is just integrated into most parts now. Some had options where I could buy the same part without it, but some it was either buy it with it or get something else that was either lower end or higher end and not what I wanted at all. In the end it has a low glow and I just face that open window at a wall. Why can’t everything have a boring option like noctua fans.
Options is the key word. Options means no “one” has a monopoly.
To me the Steam Machine looks more like it’s supposed to be a console type deal. Like what the Steam Link was supposed to be.
Especially if you mainly use it with the Big Picture mode of Steam OS
But the Steam Box comes with Linux so it must better :)