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I need chrome for work. And only ever use it for work. Because work sucks like that.
My work requires edge 🤮
Condolences friend.
Didn’t make Chrome Adblockers unusable a while ago? Are 90% of the people now using chrome with ads??
They always were. Chrome on mobile has never supported add-ons, and that’s been the main driver of browsing for a while now.
Desktop Chrome still has ad-blockers, but they’re just less effective now, as they can’t phone home for faster updates iirc.
The most significant changes was around the webRequest API, used to intercept and modify network requests. uBlock Origin used the API to block unwanted content before it loads. Google killed it because they want to force their ads and tracking on users.
somehow, some people can use the net without an adblocker. i have no idea how, but they’re out there.
And I’m grateful for these people. If everyone was using adblockers then companies like Google and advertisers would try even harder to break adblockers so it’s best if some amount of the population continues to browse without adblockers so I can get ad free access to the internet
It’s naive to think they’re not trying as hard as they can. Companies are not allowed to stop going for more, if 99% of all users didn’t block ads, they’d go just as hard after the 1% that did.
I’m sure they are not sitting on their hands but if someday it started affecting their profits at a larger level, they’d put far more resources into anti ad block I think than they do now, also Chrome has already made ad blockers difficult to run on chrome which I guess was their endgame, thankfully non chrome based browsers like Firefox and Safari still exist so I’ll continue supporting them, hopefully ladybird is also successful
This is my favorite take on this site. Thank you.
Bunch of freaks
I see it all the time at work: all the boomers rawdogging the web on Edge, like the company IT department intended.
You can still get uBlock Origin for Edge.
Not on the company managed installs. They only allow a couple of plugins. Not that my colleagues would know what they’re missing.
I have an old pixelbook with ublock that still works.
Ublock origin (for chrome) is gone, but ublock lite is available. Idk what the difference is
uBoL sucks A LOT compared to uBo.
Fewer calories!
it’s really a lifesaver for us lactose intolerant folk. regular uBo gives me gas.
It’s something 80% of the population suffers from! Might be linked to vaccines.
Left for you after clicking through all the BS.
Google sucks, uninstall Chromium stuff
Mozilla starts sucking and is also American, move to Librewolf fork as a half measure, it sucks.
Just wait for Ladybird bro
It’s also American
Why can’t Europeans into web engine dev?
I feel with open source projects I really don’t care where its country of origin is.
DPRK: “it’s showtime”
It’s not like they’re more of an insane surreal shit show of delusional authoritarianism.
No, they definitely are.
Oh theyre definitely a lot of that, but im not so sure about more. America’s done a pretty good job closing the gap.
Europe is not golden. New european laws are getting more and more authoritarian.
You may end with a browser thar automatically ask you for a id to log all your browsing “for the children!”
Fuck every EU politician, that dreams of Palantir spy tech.
You’re right but the lack of diversity and relying on a singular increasingly fascist country to lead the way on all social medua, search engines, and web engines isn’t great either.
I know of Qwant/Ecosia teaming up for an independent web search engine soon™ at least.
And people could fork what exists if there were enough motivation I guess. I’m just venting haha.
At this point it’s on web developers, and they sure as hell are prioritizing chromium browsers, likely out of time constraint (and also fuckery at the behest of corporate overlords).
I went to book rooms tonight in Vegas at the Golden Nugget for the solar convention this week.
Firefox couldn’t click through to the booking page. It worked for one room but not two. Chromium worked (ish), but also tried to say that it was almost double the rack rate than what the listing showed on Firefox.
I eventually went to kayak and despite glitches, booked the rooms, and still ended up paying more than I should have.
The Internet has become fundamentally broken due to sites trying their stupid fuckery of tracking and pricing shenanigans, let alone just trying to find basic information.
(Sorry I’m drunk and pissed off)
If i had been through that, i would also be drunk and pissed off.
How does Librewolf suck?
And Servo is hosted by the Linux Foundation Europe btw.
A few mentioned Servo now I’ll look into it thanks!
Could always try floorp as another half measure
That’s where I am currently… just really wish there was something truly separate from all the bs
I remember hearing a while ago a little bit about Servo. It seems to have been started by Mozilla, but is now managed by the Linux Foundation Europe.
In the monthly Ladybird update videos on youtube they compare its progress with other major browsers and Servo doesn’t seem to be too far behind Ladybird itself.
What’s wrong with Librewolf? I’m currently using Firefox and thinking about switching.
Give it a go and let us know what you think! I used it for a while, and the biggest annoyance was trying to use YouTube with it where videos increasingly were more difficult to load for some reason. I blame Google for that, honestly.
Don’t know why OP doesn’t like Librewolf, I’ve been using it for a few months and it’s been great.
It’s fine for now it’s just beholden to upstream which isn’t in a good state, not actually independent. I’m certainly being hyperbolic.
Yes that’s fair, wish there was a truly independent browser available.
I personally had a weird bug where my bookmarks bar stopped showing anything at all. I never reported it so whoops my fault but after a month or two I switched to waterfox. Works fine so far
But Why?
We need to go back to gopher or one of those newer simple protocols. It’s just too complex to implement HTML / CSS / JavaScript and all the other stuff correctly from scratch.
It’s just too complex to implement HTML / CSS / JavaScript and all the other stuff correctly from scratch.
It depends on what you’re trying to do really, if you’re trying to keep pace when Google then yeah it’s insurmountable (Microsoft literally couldn’t do it), but if you just want basic functionality then that’s actually rather static and unchanging.
Though it doesn’t help when sites use JS for literally everything, and the vast majority do so incorrectly.
I think Gopher would be an even more unworkable shit show than HTTP/HTML is it had to deal with the last thirty year of changes.
Now, Teletext on the other hand…
I’d some plans to write my own e-pub reader, since all the existing ones are shite in their own way, but since e-pub files are secretly xhtml and css in disguise, it’s actually a hell of a job, much bigger than I’d anticipated.
I don’t think making network requests for files nor parsing any of those formats is so difficult, and while the actual layout rules interact in a complicated way they’re not insurmountable. However, doing it securely and in a way that runs at an acceptable speed is much harder. Tokenizing JS and interpreting it isn’t so bad, but that’s not going to run a modern website with tens of thousands of lines of scripts. Displaying video with hardware acceleration? Best bust out some code.
Moving to another protocol will either need the cooperation of everyone everywhere all at once, or since that’ll never happen, alternatively convincing all the major browser manufacturers to support both for a while so that other companies can enter the market, which will also never happen. Going to be a tough sell.
You’re correct but besides implementation effort I personally think the web has become too “free” or “rich”.
I don’t actually like that every website has a slightly or sometimes completely different layout, design philosophy, tech stack etc. Often this freedom is just used to display ads everywhere, track users or to look “on brand” but it’s difficult to find the actual content (as user, but also if you want to find it programmatically). With web assembly it’s become even more opaque. It’s also pretty difficult to do anything dynamic (not a static website) in a secure way. Most of the common frameworks and CMS have a ton of dependencies and almost every one of them can impact safety in a negative way.
Not that I want to get rid of it completely. There are certainly a lot of websites that make good use of the freedom to create a unique and worthwhile experience but for a very very large part of the web (company information, blogs, wikis, forums etc) I’d prefer something much more simple that’s more straight to the point.
E.g. personally I was super sad that the usenet died and thought (especially at the beginning) that web forums where a big downgrade. Same with early web chats compared with IRC.
Nope not chrome, not Firefox, not edge or explorer. Got anything that doesn’t let outsiders know every little bit there is to know about me? My heart beat rate? I saw that this morning. New browsers will steal by heart rate! Well isn’t that amazing? GTFO!
They can’t unless your entire system is compromised.
That research paper was a POC using kernel access and the models used were calibrated to specific subjects in a particular setting. Replicating it for anyone anywhere would require much, much more sophisticated models and that the target has given you root.
elinks
elinks? Getting fancy, aren’t we? They can have lynx and like it or they’ll have to learn to appreciate
openssl s_client!
We out here using the 3Ds web browser 😤😤
(It has expired certificates and kinda doesn’t work anymore lol)
Yeah, I just use System.Net.Http.HttpClient and a basic html to md converter. Half of websites don’t work but I figure if they are too complex for this simple setup, I don’t need to see them anyway.
Chaos reigns.
