At the risk of sounding boomer despite not being boomer, have others noted a decline in basic decency with deplaning? In the past maybe two years or so even I’ve never seen so many people from the back of the plane rush ahead into the aisle blocking people in front of them from getting out and disrupting the hell out of the standard row by row front to back organized way to get off a plane. Last. Flight I took when I got into the tunnel some lunatic behind me tried to trample me, stepped on the heel of my shoe and ripped my shoe off. Not even a “sorry”
Modern air travel is the epitome of enshitification.
I just had this yesterday! Was literally standing up out of my aisle seat and some boomer lady literally pushed me aside to get off the plane. I’m hoping she had another plane to catch, but goddamn you were one row away, we’re talking maybe 30 more seconds here.
People are no longer able to be in enclosed spaces with each other because everyone is paranoid of everyone else, mental problems don’t get treatment, they get communities of supporters, and every American has a custom algorithm that feeds them specific, atomizing perspectives of a world we once all shared. Even basic decency is out the window because we are abandoning any sense of community with our fellow citizens.
I mean, imo we should all collectively decide to deboard from in to out, not row by row. Makes way more sense, since two columns can stand up and grab their bags from the overhead, then two whole columns just walk off the plane. As it is, literally the whole plane is blocked from exiting by every single row as they stand there struggling to get their bags free.
If you have a kid with you, or some other circumstance like that, sure, take them with you. But for everyone else deplaning by column makes a ton more sense.
Sounds great. They could just turn the lights on one column at at time as a signaling strategy. Of course it doesn’t solve the God forsaken cursed chaos that is baggage in an overhead further back than one’s seat. That is like a three body level type of conundrum.
I’ll die on this hill: overhead compartments should have dividers and sections assigned to seats. This would solve a number of problems, including oversized bags (it must fit in the section assigned to you) and the problem you describe.
Yes it’s insane. I was on a flight recently, we got in 15 minutes early and the flight attendant came over the PA asking to let people with tight connections off first. I was bewildered, we’re 15 minutes early, just deplane like normal. I didn’t have a connection, but I do have things in my life I need to attend to.
From my experience, rushing the front of a plane during deplaning is common in Asia. I noticed it the most in Thailand, China, and India, but I’ve admittedly only had a few travels there. I’ve asked a few Asian natives about this trend, and the general consensus so far seems to be that, especially for China and India, there is a sense of “everyone for themselves” due to the sheer population density in many areas. If you don’t push forward, you won’t make it onto a crowded train.
I have seen much less of this in Europe and North America, except for the occasional eager individuals or small group. In those cases, I haven’t noticed any perceivable pattern in ethnicity. If I had to pick out a trait that comes to mind, I most often notice it in younger men. It could be confirmation bias, though.
I just assume that deplaning is not happening until people 2 rows ahead stand up to grab their carryons. Everything before that is part of the flight experience.
It’s remarkable how many people in these comments detest people wanting to have a chill time when flying.
We’re not slowing the rest of you down - we’re getting out of your way. There’s so many moving parts that an extra five minutes are so far down the list of things that I’m just not fussed.
Trains are a bit different - there rushing can make all the difference. The limiting factors there are usually how quickly one can get between platforms!
It’s not the people who are chill and out of the way, it’s the 80 year old dude who forces his way in front of you, who is totally not ready to get moving, looking for his stuff while in the aisle, can’t get his luggage down by himself and walks slower than hell.
It likely does. The chaotic bumrush wouldn’t be permitted by the airlines if it didn’t work. The sense of panic in promotes is probably good for deplaning averages.
Like so many things that are good for corporations, it’s very damn unpleasant for customers.
No, it doesn’t speed up deplaning for some asshole to block me from getting my bag down and make me have to wait until later because they think they’re special. It’s a line and they’re skipping it.
I’m betting on the money. If you think the airlines haven’t looked at whether it would be more expedient and therefore profitable to organize deplaning or leave things to animal instincts you are underestimating their greed.
Dude why do you think the airlines are in a hurry? Lol
Everything they do is slow and behind schedule. They do not care, they already have your money. It doesn’t save them anything to deboard a couple minutes faster.
Edit: I could probably list several things they could do to for sure save time but they don’t do because again, they already have your money
Oh they definitely are to the tunes of millions. I don’t have time right now to find the best sources for you but you can look it up if interested there is a lot of published and likely even more industry unpublished data on this. Planing and deplaning speeds do make a difference.
At the risk of sounding boomer despite not being boomer, have others noted a decline in basic decency with deplaning? In the past maybe two years or so even I’ve never seen so many people from the back of the plane rush ahead into the aisle blocking people in front of them from getting out and disrupting the hell out of the standard row by row front to back organized way to get off a plane. Last. Flight I took when I got into the tunnel some lunatic behind me tried to trample me, stepped on the heel of my shoe and ripped my shoe off. Not even a “sorry” Modern air travel is the epitome of enshitification.
I just had this yesterday! Was literally standing up out of my aisle seat and some boomer lady literally pushed me aside to get off the plane. I’m hoping she had another plane to catch, but goddamn you were one row away, we’re talking maybe 30 more seconds here.
It shouldn’t at all be a surprise, since Covid, reports of “air rage incidents” spiked about 1000% and then remained elevated ever since.
People are no longer able to be in enclosed spaces with each other because everyone is paranoid of everyone else, mental problems don’t get treatment, they get communities of supporters, and every American has a custom algorithm that feeds them specific, atomizing perspectives of a world we once all shared. Even basic decency is out the window because we are abandoning any sense of community with our fellow citizens.
I mean, imo we should all collectively decide to deboard from in to out, not row by row. Makes way more sense, since two columns can stand up and grab their bags from the overhead, then two whole columns just walk off the plane. As it is, literally the whole plane is blocked from exiting by every single row as they stand there struggling to get their bags free.
If you have a kid with you, or some other circumstance like that, sure, take them with you. But for everyone else deplaning by column makes a ton more sense.
Sounds great. They could just turn the lights on one column at at time as a signaling strategy. Of course it doesn’t solve the God forsaken cursed chaos that is baggage in an overhead further back than one’s seat. That is like a three body level type of conundrum.
I’ll die on this hill: overhead compartments should have dividers and sections assigned to seats. This would solve a number of problems, including oversized bags (it must fit in the section assigned to you) and the problem you describe.
If that happens, you just wait in your row until the plane is empty.
Ah yes, collective decision making, so easy, especially with strangers.
So many problems in this world would be solved if only we could just get everyone all together to do <insert whatever>.
I know, I know, it’s a pipe dream. Doesn’t stop me from fantisizing each time I’m on a plane.
Yes it’s insane. I was on a flight recently, we got in 15 minutes early and the flight attendant came over the PA asking to let people with tight connections off first. I was bewildered, we’re 15 minutes early, just deplane like normal. I didn’t have a connection, but I do have things in my life I need to attend to.
just say you have a connection?
From my experience, rushing the front of a plane during deplaning is common in Asia. I noticed it the most in Thailand, China, and India, but I’ve admittedly only had a few travels there. I’ve asked a few Asian natives about this trend, and the general consensus so far seems to be that, especially for China and India, there is a sense of “everyone for themselves” due to the sheer population density in many areas. If you don’t push forward, you won’t make it onto a crowded train.
I have seen much less of this in Europe and North America, except for the occasional eager individuals or small group. In those cases, I haven’t noticed any perceivable pattern in ethnicity. If I had to pick out a trait that comes to mind, I most often notice it in younger men. It could be confirmation bias, though.
I just assume that deplaning is not happening until people 2 rows ahead stand up to grab their carryons. Everything before that is part of the flight experience.
Zero stress.
It’s remarkable how many people in these comments detest people wanting to have a chill time when flying.
We’re not slowing the rest of you down - we’re getting out of your way. There’s so many moving parts that an extra five minutes are so far down the list of things that I’m just not fussed.
Trains are a bit different - there rushing can make all the difference. The limiting factors there are usually how quickly one can get between platforms!
It’s not the people who are chill and out of the way, it’s the 80 year old dude who forces his way in front of you, who is totally not ready to get moving, looking for his stuff while in the aisle, can’t get his luggage down by himself and walks slower than hell.
I can’t remember a time in the last 30 years where things were different. People have always sucked.
But over all it’s good if people hate flying since we are not supposed to fly anyway. Yay!
“I’m not even supposed to be here!”
I saw someone itt say that it speeds up deplaning for them to rush to the front like you’re saying.
It likely does. The chaotic bumrush wouldn’t be permitted by the airlines if it didn’t work. The sense of panic in promotes is probably good for deplaning averages. Like so many things that are good for corporations, it’s very damn unpleasant for customers.
No, it doesn’t speed up deplaning for some asshole to block me from getting my bag down and make me have to wait until later because they think they’re special. It’s a line and they’re skipping it.
Are you making assumptions or do you have stats on this?
If you did you would’ve shared them.
I’m betting on the money. If you think the airlines haven’t looked at whether it would be more expedient and therefore profitable to organize deplaning or leave things to animal instincts you are underestimating their greed.
Dude why do you think the airlines are in a hurry? Lol
Everything they do is slow and behind schedule. They do not care, they already have your money. It doesn’t save them anything to deboard a couple minutes faster.
Edit: I could probably list several things they could do to for sure save time but they don’t do because again, they already have your money
Oh they definitely are to the tunes of millions. I don’t have time right now to find the best sources for you but you can look it up if interested there is a lot of published and likely even more industry unpublished data on this. Planing and deplaning speeds do make a difference.
I fly several times a year and haven’t really noticed that? I usually sit towards the back anyways though.