i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

I never suggested it does. I said eating meat isn’t mean.

they’re dead before they’re butchered. they’re butchered before they’re sold. eating meat can’t possibly be mean. a dead butchered animal doesn’t need it’s meat.

they’re different because they are people, and they are real.

eating meat is not mean