Wonder if these could be armoured enough to withstand small arms fire but light enough to be able to move around and last any decent amount of time on a charge.
Not really no, you can stop small rounds with light armor, but heavier rounds require extensive armor. Several inches of plate quickly adds up. The amount of energy it requires to move silently, and fast is pretty high. Batteries aren’t really capable of even just the motion for more then a few minutes. Gasoline engines are load and leave traces in the atmosphere that make them easy to track. The computer systems needed to run the AI are also quite extensive and using radio signals will leave locate them immediately. There are a ton of barriers. No pun intended. There is also just the fact that your 200,000 robot can be taken out by a round that cost a few dollars by a human who is 1000 to a 1,000,000x more energy efficient and harder to detect with some basic gear, like an IR blocking poncho. Humans are made by nature to be stealthy and efficient and excellent killing machines, robots or otherwise.
This is why the AI doomsayers annoy me so much, we are far away from that being a reality anytime soon, while the real dangers if AI are already here and being abused. Propaganda, fake news, vote manipulation, automated harassment, and artificial intelligence for politicians to learn about things they never could learn with their own miserable little brains. AI is being used for censorship, to brainwash people, and has been for many years and yet we are flooded with the endless distractions about an AI apocalypse to stear the conversation away from the actual bad that is being done today with them.
There is also just the fact that your 200,000 robot can be taken out by a round
I know you were answering the question as posed, so I’m not disputing that. But sadly that’s not the direction things are going in. We’re not going to be put down by an army of a few thousand $200,000 robots, it’ll be by an army of a billion $100 robots.
Humans can also train too. You also can’t shoot what you don’t know is there which I guess is one of humanity’s greatest strengths. Our body’s create very little heat, are electrically neutral, and leave very little chemical trace. We can live out of a backpack for weeks or months. Not everyone is suited for that or has the knowledge but many do.
Iirc, the newer dogs are already water, emp, and small arms resistant. These are all old models. Even the newer BD project is much more advanced than these Atlas’
Iirc, the newer dogs are already water, emp, and small arms resistant.
Sure. But from what I’ve heard, they have something on the order of a 10-30 minute battery life in anything but “stand their and do surveillance” mode. From a pure calorie perspective, animatronics are still painfully inefficient compared to - say - a human with a belly full of oatmeal on a bicycle.
Even beyond that, a lot of the Elon Musk brand of robots are primarily human-operated. They need to carry around high end receivers to get far from their home base and they require a talented technician to keep them pointed in the right direction.
There’s a reason you don’t see many of these devices in the field, particularly unattended. Given the high end components that are involved in their construction, anyone with an eye for salvage will just see a walking pile of dollar signs.
Doubtful in the beginning, but when enough cash is lost. They will develop a way to armor them against the common citizen. Then we have to move to more heavy arms fire or join an organized resistance.
Either way, fighting machines fucking sucks. They dont sleep, have emotions or get tired.
Wonder if these could be armoured enough to withstand small arms fire but light enough to be able to move around and last any decent amount of time on a charge.
The EMP bomb that i just throw:
Not really no, you can stop small rounds with light armor, but heavier rounds require extensive armor. Several inches of plate quickly adds up. The amount of energy it requires to move silently, and fast is pretty high. Batteries aren’t really capable of even just the motion for more then a few minutes. Gasoline engines are load and leave traces in the atmosphere that make them easy to track. The computer systems needed to run the AI are also quite extensive and using radio signals will leave locate them immediately. There are a ton of barriers. No pun intended. There is also just the fact that your 200,000 robot can be taken out by a round that cost a few dollars by a human who is 1000 to a 1,000,000x more energy efficient and harder to detect with some basic gear, like an IR blocking poncho. Humans are made by nature to be stealthy and efficient and excellent killing machines, robots or otherwise.
This is why the AI doomsayers annoy me so much, we are far away from that being a reality anytime soon, while the real dangers if AI are already here and being abused. Propaganda, fake news, vote manipulation, automated harassment, and artificial intelligence for politicians to learn about things they never could learn with their own miserable little brains. AI is being used for censorship, to brainwash people, and has been for many years and yet we are flooded with the endless distractions about an AI apocalypse to stear the conversation away from the actual bad that is being done today with them.
I know you were answering the question as posed, so I’m not disputing that. But sadly that’s not the direction things are going in. We’re not going to be put down by an army of a few thousand $200,000 robots, it’ll be by an army of a billion $100 robots.
All that is required is reflexes faster than ours to make them insanely difficult to hit.
Better aim, stabilization while moving, incredible hivemind-esque team coordination.
It’s not even going to be fair.
Humans can also train too. You also can’t shoot what you don’t know is there which I guess is one of humanity’s greatest strengths. Our body’s create very little heat, are electrically neutral, and leave very little chemical trace. We can live out of a backpack for weeks or months. Not everyone is suited for that or has the knowledge but many do.
Iirc, the newer dogs are already water, emp, and small arms resistant. These are all old models. Even the newer BD project is much more advanced than these Atlas’
Sure. But from what I’ve heard, they have something on the order of a 10-30 minute battery life in anything but “stand their and do surveillance” mode. From a pure calorie perspective, animatronics are still painfully inefficient compared to - say - a human with a belly full of oatmeal on a bicycle.
Even beyond that, a lot of the Elon Musk brand of robots are primarily human-operated. They need to carry around high end receivers to get far from their home base and they require a talented technician to keep them pointed in the right direction.
There’s a reason you don’t see many of these devices in the field, particularly unattended. Given the high end components that are involved in their construction, anyone with an eye for salvage will just see a walking pile of dollar signs.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
I mean, I continue to be far more worried about the human with the gun, as they’ve done a great job of terrorizing the country on their own.
Doubtful in the beginning, but when enough cash is lost. They will develop a way to armor them against the common citizen. Then we have to move to more heavy arms fire or join an organized resistance.
Either way, fighting machines fucking sucks. They dont sleep, have emotions or get tired.