I’m not sure whether that’s a hot take, and I know there are different levels of tolerance, but I think you might have a problem if you drink 20 beers in 2-3 days (assuming 4-6% alcohol). Or at least you will probably have, starting day 2 :D
Assuming 12oz beers at 5% ABV, that you’re a man at the global average weight of 180lbs, and have a healthy liver, if you paced yourself to 1 beer every 1.5 hours over the course of your 16 waking hours per day, your BAC would never exceed 0.02, you’d have 5-10 minutes between beers with a BAC of 0, and you’d drink about 12 beers in a day.
Most people would not be noticeably intoxicated by this and probably wouldn’t experience any kind of hangover. They might wind up a bit dehydrated if that’s the only thing they drink. It’s also definitely not advisable to do that over any extended period of time.
Sometimes I seem sodas in 0.355 cans, mostly red bull. Somewhat uncommon size here imo, and I’m just wondering where theyre used. 0.355 seems like a US size, but the bottles I got from Germany were mostly 0.33l aa well. Although the cans were like 0.6l
Just wondering how prevalent and mismatched the standards are
There is a big difference if it’s a periodic activity or a one time party thing. If it’s a one time one, it’s not a big deal, apart from heavy hangover afterwards.
You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy), so that one party can potentially (EDIT: Pay attention to this word and stop blowing things out of proportion lemmy! Potential does not mean always, it means there is a chance involved) fuck you up more than periodical drinking. I think it was called alcoholic cerebellar degeneration. This is why I refuse to touch strong drinks like vodka and whenever I drink beer, I take a sip once per minute or two, not chug the can in 5 minutes, and never drink again in the next few days.
And I’ve seen people like that in parties. Several times in my life, it resulted with ER visit. Said people are younger than me and already look drunk even when sober, while others who enjoy the occosional beer after work are fine their entire lives.
Did not realize how much lemmy defends alcohol, and I’m from East Europe where I’ve seen more than you’ll ever read online.
This isn’t about “defending” anything. Alcohol is a dangerous substance. And most people here know that.
That said your level of fear mongering is extreme to say the least. You sound like someone telling everyone not to go within 1km of an ankle deep pond because they’ll drown.
While possible in both cases to get permanent brain damage or drown. It is extremely unlikely on a winning a large lotto level.
Almost all people will pass out or start throwing up, long before they get near that level. Especially if they are not already an alcoholic with huge tolerance.
Source: 20 year hard core binge drinking alcoholic (20-30 drinks a day or more). That has been in the hospital 6 times for withdraw myself. And in rehab multiple times with large groups of other extreme alcoholics…
Edit: I strongly suspect most (if not all) those you thought had that condition were actually under the influence. Daily drinking alcoholics are extremely good at both hiding it ( oh I have to go to the bathroom) and lying about. They will tell you straight to your face they haven’t had a drink in weeks after you just caught them drinking a beer.
Alcoholic cerebellar degeneration is caused by chronic consumption.
If you aren’t alcoholic already, and unless you have some very specific condition, the body will start getting rid of alcohol way quicker than you will be consuming it, through any means necessary.
Drinking a lot is still dangerous, but mostly due to drunken behaviour.
You’re indeed right that drugs should be consumed responsibly, and alcohol is poison, but it’s also not that dangerous, unless it’s an addiction.
the body will start getting rid of alcohol way quicker than you will be consuming it, through any means necessary.
This shit is getting upvoted while I’m getting downvoted? Tell this to any medical professional and they will look at you the same way I look at flat earthers. Alcohol metabolism is capped, while your ability to consume it isn’t nearly as capped as your body’s ability to deal with it. That “by any means necessary” makes it far worse. Those who know, will know.
Another side note - tolerance /= faster metabolism.
Chug on few vodkas per hour and report back to me about your myth (or should I say, forward your autopsy report to me?)
You are not much fun. 2. You have never been to a good party. 3. Humanity owes its existence to alcohol. Beer and wine were the only safe drinks before water purification.
Alcohol also creates reproduction.
You also will vomit when too much alcohol is consumed. Even if you are passed out.
Ask me how much alcohol and different drugs, including rarely known ones like 25l-nbome I’ve used. Medical field and drugs have always fascinated me, hence my excessive reading on it and the potential dangers associated with them. What I said isn’t also some hard-coded event that will most definitely happen, it’s actually mostly down to genetics where some will deal with said substances better than others. Look up super-hangover gene (forgot what was it called ironically)
You all seem to be ignoring the “potentially” word from my original comment.
You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy),
I have never heard of this in over half a century of drinking. Link or you made it up. Difficulty: no links to Mormon/religious nutcase made up shit.
If it’s like a once a year event, is it really that bad? It’s what I do for summer solstice. I don’t easily get drunk though. Maybe 15 beers an evening to get me drunk, so 30-40 for a weekend if I were to drink only beer and nothing stronger.
I mean, if you’re doing a full weekend of activities with friends those beers could be spaced out far enough that you’re never more than slightly buzzed (small cans, <5%ABV). But yeah, if it’s a regular thing, it’s not a great look.
Yeah if you crack open the first cold one at noon when it gets hot while you’re helping with some outdoors work and finish your last one at 3 AM talking shit with your friends, you probably never get drunk with those amounts. If you drink it all over 4 hours per evening, different story.
I’m not sure whether that’s a hot take, and I know there are different levels of tolerance, but I think you might have a problem if you drink 20 beers in 2-3 days (assuming 4-6% alcohol). Or at least you will probably have, starting day 2 :D
Assuming 12oz beers at 5% ABV, that you’re a man at the global average weight of 180lbs, and have a healthy liver, if you paced yourself to 1 beer every 1.5 hours over the course of your 16 waking hours per day, your BAC would never exceed 0.02, you’d have 5-10 minutes between beers with a BAC of 0, and you’d drink about 12 beers in a day.
Most people would not be noticeably intoxicated by this and probably wouldn’t experience any kind of hangover. They might wind up a bit dehydrated if that’s the only thing they drink. It’s also definitely not advisable to do that over any extended period of time.
There’s no volume stated here… is 1 beer a pint, 0.5 liters, small bottle/can of .33 liters, 2 liter bottle.
If it’s the the small bottle it’s not that much
Where can you get beer by the 2 liter?
Generally most consider a “beer” 355ml (12oz us) give or take.
0.33 in Nordics. Then also 0.4, common bar serving, and 0.5l can and full pint, 0.568l cans.
But “a beer” in the Nordics would generally be 0.33 from a can and 0.4l from a tap
Which is why I said give or take :)
Yup. It is indeed. I just wanted to add info.
Sometimes I seem sodas in 0.355 cans, mostly red bull. Somewhat uncommon size here imo, and I’m just wondering where theyre used. 0.355 seems like a US size, but the bottles I got from Germany were mostly 0.33l aa well. Although the cans were like 0.6l
Just wondering how prevalent and mismatched the standards are
12 oz “US”
There is a big difference if it’s a periodic activity or a one time party thing. If it’s a one time one, it’s not a big deal, apart from heavy hangover afterwards.
You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy), so that one party can potentially (EDIT: Pay attention to this word and stop blowing things out of proportion lemmy! Potential does not mean always, it means there is a chance involved) fuck you up more than periodical drinking. I think it was called alcoholic cerebellar degeneration. This is why I refuse to touch strong drinks like vodka and whenever I drink beer, I take a sip once per minute or two, not chug the can in 5 minutes, and never drink again in the next few days.
Consume your drugs responsibly, people.
Do you realize how much “too much” is in your scenario?
Like alcohol poisoning dead level. Can’t walk. Can’t stay awake. Can’t breathe. Can’t do anything.
And I’ve seen people like that in parties. Several times in my life, it resulted with ER visit. Said people are younger than me and already look drunk even when sober, while others who enjoy the occosional beer after work are fine their entire lives.
Did not realize how much lemmy defends alcohol, and I’m from East Europe where I’ve seen more than you’ll ever read online.
This isn’t about “defending” anything. Alcohol is a dangerous substance. And most people here know that.
That said your level of fear mongering is extreme to say the least. You sound like someone telling everyone not to go within 1km of an ankle deep pond because they’ll drown.
While possible in both cases to get permanent brain damage or drown. It is extremely unlikely on a winning a large lotto level.
Almost all people will pass out or start throwing up, long before they get near that level. Especially if they are not already an alcoholic with huge tolerance.
Source: 20 year hard core binge drinking alcoholic (20-30 drinks a day or more). That has been in the hospital 6 times for withdraw myself. And in rehab multiple times with large groups of other extreme alcoholics…
Edit: I strongly suspect most (if not all) those you thought had that condition were actually under the influence. Daily drinking alcoholics are extremely good at both hiding it ( oh I have to go to the bathroom) and lying about. They will tell you straight to your face they haven’t had a drink in weeks after you just caught them drinking a beer.
Alcoholic cerebellar degeneration is caused by chronic consumption.
If you aren’t alcoholic already, and unless you have some very specific condition, the body will start getting rid of alcohol way quicker than you will be consuming it, through any means necessary.
Drinking a lot is still dangerous, but mostly due to drunken behaviour.
You’re indeed right that drugs should be consumed responsibly, and alcohol is poison, but it’s also not that dangerous, unless it’s an addiction.
This shit is getting upvoted while I’m getting downvoted? Tell this to any medical professional and they will look at you the same way I look at flat earthers. Alcohol metabolism is capped, while your ability to consume it isn’t nearly as capped as your body’s ability to deal with it. That “by any means necessary” makes it far worse. Those who know, will know.
Another side note - tolerance /= faster metabolism.
Chug on few vodkas per hour and report back to me about your myth (or should I say, forward your autopsy report to me?)
Alcohol also creates reproduction.
You also will vomit when too much alcohol is consumed. Even if you are passed out.
Ask me how much alcohol and different drugs, including rarely known ones like 25l-nbome I’ve used. Medical field and drugs have always fascinated me, hence my excessive reading on it and the potential dangers associated with them. What I said isn’t also some hard-coded event that will most definitely happen, it’s actually mostly down to genetics where some will deal with said substances better than others. Look up super-hangover gene (forgot what was it called ironically)
You all seem to be ignoring the “potentially” word from my original comment.
I have never heard of this in over half a century of drinking. Link or you made it up. Difficulty: no links to Mormon/religious nutcase made up shit.
I literally game you the name for it, just put it on PubMed
If it’s like a once a year event, is it really that bad? It’s what I do for summer solstice. I don’t easily get drunk though. Maybe 15 beers an evening to get me drunk, so 30-40 for a weekend if I were to drink only beer and nothing stronger.
I mean, if you’re doing a full weekend of activities with friends those beers could be spaced out far enough that you’re never more than slightly buzzed (small cans, <5%ABV). But yeah, if it’s a regular thing, it’s not a great look.
Yeah if you crack open the first cold one at noon when it gets hot while you’re helping with some outdoors work and finish your last one at 3 AM talking shit with your friends, you probably never get drunk with those amounts. If you drink it all over 4 hours per evening, different story.
Yeah at the slow paces outside you’re more likely to get dehydrated than drunk.
Idk, 10 liters of beer a day is kinda hydro tho
Really depends on whether we’re talking 0.33l oder 0.5l.