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Perfect, embroider it on a pillow.
I mean, we already have a laundry machine to do the laundry and a dishwasher to do the dishes.
Meanwhile, I can’t draw for shit. So I can understand - at least around the edges - why “Please draw me a picture of a tiger with a boner and a big grin standing upright in a t-shirt that says Stripe Right For A Good Time” has a certain naive appeal.
I just don’t know if I enjoy having my water bill doubled in order to pay for it.
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Damn, this is so funny I just can’t…
I’m just pointing this out, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who will…
We have machines to do the laundry and dishes for us already. We just have to set them up (put stuff in them) and they do the job for us.
When was the last time you saw someone get out the washing board?
That still requires gathering the dirty items together, loading/unloading, keeping track of when it is full/time to run. People saying this mean they want a robot like Rosie from the Jetsons to take care of that sort of housekeeping, not for a machine that makes the task easier to do themself.
Edit: to be clear, I don’t think a washer machine or dishwasher is a hassle and problem that needs solving, but that doesn’t take away from the message of “AI should help make life easier, not replace the creative outlets additional free time should allow”
That still requires gathering the dirty items together, loading/unloading, keeping track of when it is full/time to run.
And I still need to prompt the AI, review the images presented, copy/paste them, possibly apply further manipulations to suit my needs.
Like, yes. Your life isn’t going to be 100% on autopilot for anything except bill pay.
that doesn’t take away from the message of “AI should help make life easier, not replace the creative outlets additional free time should allow”
I think it outlines the raw limits of any kind of automation. You can make imperfect trades between human labor and appliances. But there’s always a limit that a tool can do without supervision relative to what a cognizant human can perform.
Edit: to be clear, I don’t think a washer machine or dishwasher is a hassle and problem that needs solving, but that doesn’t take away from the message of “AI should help make life easier, not replace the creative outlets additional free time should allow”
You are a dreamer, we live in the real world with limited resources, and here everything will be hard without hope, and robots will replace people, not help them.
Utopia is not possible, only dystopia is possible.
okay doomer
I would agree that’s what people mean, but they’re completely overlooking that the problem has already been recognised, and addressed, with a solution that’s been around for decades.
It’s just that people take these modern amenities for granted, so they see them as part of the burden of doing the dishes or doing laundry, rather than relieving the burden of doing those things.
We can load up the dish washer and sit on our duff watching YouTube while a machine does the hard work. Then we just have to suffer through putting the dishes where we want them to go.
This is textbook “first world problems”. AI is only expected to solve these first world problems. By definition, these problems are less actually problems that need solving, and more inconveniences that we perceive as problems.
I’ve been using a washing board for the past 2 years with occasional trips to the Laundromat. It’s rough.
Over time, when resources run out and civilization collapses, there will be no more washing machines. So if people survive, they will wash their clothes by hand again.
I’m sorry you’re going through that.
Why are the robots creating art and the humans packing boxes?
Capitalism; most of the time art isn’t profitable, and if it is, the profit goes to the artist, not to shareholders. So if we make bots for it, we can force everyone to do wage labor in shit conditions.
Underrated comment.
Art is very profitable for the rich and elite, in terms of laundering money.
Because creating art is easier than packing boxes.
You have to start somewhere.
Having lived without a dishwasher for many years, I’m never complaining about loading/unloading the dishwasher. From starting the kettle to finishing a pour over is more than enough time to unload.
And never again having to schlep clothes to the laundromat because we have laundry in our home? Likewise, I’m not going to complain. The only reason laundry takes real effort is when we opt to use the clothesline instead of the dryer.
Not everyone has a dishwasher, washing machine, and clothes dryer, so I absolutely recognize that I’m very fortunate here. And the crazy thing is, these devices aren’t even particularly expensive, especially since they can be had used — I think a big reason folks don’t have them is the installation+room required. Which probably says something about landlords and the general cost per area of housing.
We’ve had the software to automate loading and unloading the dishwasher for a long time now.
Making the hardware reliable and affordable is what stands between us and fully automated household chores.
My robot vacuum is affordable but gets stuck on things often enough that I just rather vacuum manually once a week instead of daily rescue missions.
Still waiting for flying robot vacuums or robots with vacuums, which also clean the stairs, shelves and other surfaces in the house.
They have flying drones that can eliminate the source of why all that stuff keeps getting dirty? (humans)
I saw an article about a cleaning robot that can climb stairs that’s just come out, it’s a quadruped thing.
I bet early adopters will just end up with a robot that mostly just lives downstairs, occasionally making it to the top, but usually failing on at least one stair before it gets to the top and loudly clattering to the bottom before going to sleep for an exponentially increasing time (so that people can use the stairs between attempts).
I for one still find it amusing how it can get stuck on different things every now and then. Even after all these years. Especially when it chews on my wife’s stuff and I can make fun of it.
Mine gets stuck under the kitchen counter. It’s just the right height that sometimes it thinks it can fit under it but the slightly uneven floor jams it stuck and with pressure on the front the drive wheels don’t get enough traction to pull it out.
I just wanna say that while I agree with the sentiment of the post, AI has nothing to do with this.
We’ve had dishwashers and laundry machines that are super efficient and effective for many years. A lot of those chores are being done for you by automation.
LLMs have much fewer practical applications
Are you talking about AI in general or only generative A’I’? Because as far as I know, a, say, robot maid (of sorts) that would load and empty your dishwasher/washing machine, organise stuff, clean, whatever other domestic labor most people don’t like, could be considered AI, just used for different purposes.
I mean the AI that grifters currently push. Not the slippery slope definition of “is a lightbulb AI” :D
She is aware that dishwashers and laundry machines exist. She’s saying that she wants AI to do her dishes and laundry tasks, the same as she does when she’s using those machines. The entire process.
Yep.
“But we already have dishwashers and washing machines”
No shit, but for some reason when I put my dirty clothes in the laundry basket they don’t show up folded in my drawers without me, ya know…doing the laundry.
But like, that’s only further automation, not “AI” and certainly not AI in its current form.
Maybe it’s pedantry but like it’s got nothing to do with machine learning. I want it too, but not with the grifters pushing AI lol
They do have humanoid robots that are starting to do this. But it’s still in training, mostly done by remote operators except for easier tasks that have already been trained.
The point of note, is that if we didn’t have so many freeloaders, rich or middling do nothing jobs, we would have plenty more time to explore our passions.
Totally! And I agree with that.
I just don’t subscribe to the grifters pushing AI on us.
A lot of terms are starting to blend… Now anything that does work a human could also do is AI / robots / automation / machine learning.
Yeah.
I really like how Claude emulates specific writing styles so you can troll the living fuck out of some obnoxious self-serious writers in their circle-jerk chats. you drop some flowery shitball in there and they bukkake all over it and never once anyone ever suspected that this thing was AI generated. However, anytime I drop something actually written by humans just slightly out of style for that kind of crowd - they go pitchforks and boiling pitch on it calling it AI slop Antichrist Devil even though it is just something they simply don’t like or understand.
so true. although i shouldn’t complain too much because i don’t even have a dishwasher i can use and when i find a place it most likely won’t have a dishwasher either. And alot of rental units do not like you using those “countertop” dishwashers because of some plumbing issues it can cause.
Plumbing issues? When I had one of those at my last place, it just had an attachment for the tap to get the water and another hose that drained into the sink. My current under the counter dishwasher is the exact same setup, it just taps into the inlet and drain under the sink instead of over it. The only physical change to the pluming was replacing the tap nozzle, which I put back without issue when I moved out (might have even given them a new screen when I did so).
Its not so much a practical issue its more so a “these are our rules, if you break them your evicted”. some apartments have dishwashers now, but in the past, none did. This is more so an issue with scummy landlords and property management companies though.
Ah yes give AI access to the physical world.
What could possibly go wrong?
Many companies have automatic assembly lines and nothing is wrong, so with just making the laundry it shouldn’t be a problem
Unmitigated disaster!
This is a problem only in developed countries; in other countries, there are either no such problems or much fewer of them.
I really like doing laundry and dishes tho
Yes, the main thing is that there is not too much of it, then it is quite bearable.
Good, you can do mine.
i’m next in queue
Pay him the money then.
I always felt that there’s something deeply broken about people who enjoy doing dishes
Yes, but thanks to this, such people have a much better chance of surviving in the future than normal people after the collapse of civilization.
I enjoy the feeling of the chore being done. You have to do the chore for it to be done, though. Kind of shitty but it is what it is.
Actually, I get it - there’s a kind of humility in doing your own dishes, cleaning up after yourself.
For me at least, now that I get that, I can stay humble without actually doing the work, haha
Well that’s… quite hurtful
Yah, cool. Keep doing them. I would rather hand those tasks over though.
Do you actually enjoy it or just the chance to do something different than you usually do?
I do all the dishes in my house and almost all of the laundry. Folding towels is my favorite part.
Chances of survival in a crisis have increased fivefold!!!
I personally don’t want it to do anything for me if possible, chore wise. When it comes to dishes, I am particular on where certain items go in the dishwasher and where they get put away. I trust absolutely nobody to do dishes but me. I also don’t trust anyone to do my laundry either. Especially not a clanker.
