Random Rant: I feel like reddit died after they banned all the “unmoderated” communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.
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I just wish Lemmy had the same subreddit communities on it, the real benefit of Reddit was that you can add it to your search in Google for niche things and it would find threads about that thing, Lemmy on the other hand has either not been indexed as much or just doesn’t have those communities and the organic discussion among them. I think one of the issues with Lemmy is there is some friction to joining it, you need to figure out what an instance is and which one you wanna join and then figure out an app to access Lemmy and then find the communities that interest you etc. Compare that with something like BlueSky for Twitter replacement, it’s easy to sign up and follow peoplw and they gave a official app
Yeah what happened to that Lemmy search thing someone was working on
Man, Lemmy on Reddit is like having to listen to someone who constantly brings up their ex in conversation whilst constantly telling you how little they care.
“Wow, my ex was in the news again. He’s running around downtown in a trench coat flashing people and trying to punch them in the nuts”
“Yeah, okay, we get it. You dated the Nutsack Bandit. No need to keep bringing it up.”
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
I gave up on reddit the day the mod teams of were allowed to ban you from their community not because you did anything wrong, but because you were a member in another sub that they didn’t like.
You gave up on Reddit because mods can ban you for random reasons unrelated to your behavior? That’s one of a small set of problems that’s literally much worse and more prevalent on Lemmy.
That happens here constantly
I’ve only ever seen this from the kids over at .ml.
Irony is that people in .ml ban you for not agreeing with their hivemind
I’ve heard this a few times, and then I’ve seen the people that got banned…
.ml seems to be a magnet for people who want to scream explicatives at leftists and throw in some transphobia to boot.
It’s run by a fucking dickhead worshipping Musk.
Yeah, and Reddit will permaban anyone talking about “political violence”, ideas like punching Nazis and harassing MAGAts, all the while giving the bastards a free ticket to do shit they want over there like destroying LGBTQ symbols.
I just got permabanned. I have not had anything so much as a complaint about me in the 12 years I used the site, but in the last 6 months I have received 2 temp and now a perma ban for speaking out against various conservative figure heads.
I got a 24 hour ban for saying a conservative figure should stand on her head and let the blood rush to her brain and maybe she’ll have a coherent thought. I was accused of inciting violence.
Edit: Here are the 3 things I got whacked with “inciting violence”
- Danielle Smith should stand on her head to let the blood rush to her brain to have a coherent thought - 24 hours
- Someone said JD Vance will never be president, and I responded with, “He will when DT has his heart explode from all the cheeseburgers he eats” - 3 days
- Kristi Noem needs to shut her fucking mouth and keep her cunt ass out of my countries business - Perma ban
There’s like, a billion fucking nazi, incel, misogynist subs on reddit that are just allowed to exist
Tell any one of those subreddit-goers to fuck off for their nazi incel misogynist bullshit? Permabanned
The other day I made it off hand remark about my desire to take out pent up rage on several sexual predators being shown in a video.
Instant ban of a 13-year-old account for “threatening violence.” I consider it a badge of honor against the fascist platform. Honestly it’s no better than Twitter these days.
Over on the new Digg I got a comment auto moderated by AI for describing a scenario where I angrily shakes my fist at someone and gave them a thumbs down because they almost hit a goose.
Violence
my permanent ban on reddit came when i described how i hoped krasnov would shit himself to death on live television. like, total blowout and then heart attack while eating a nasty sandwich. the full elvis. apparently that’s inciting violence.
Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.
The Nazis of the early 20th century were committing genocide and conquest, and the only way to stop them was through violence. But if you’re talking about “punching Nazis” in the context of the UK and Frogage, their odious policies are a long way from justifying threats of violence which are rightly not legal.
In the US where Trump is attempting a fascist takeover, time will tell whether it will take violence to dislodge. But from our position it’s easy to see why a lot of these people get banned.
They were nazis before the genocide and conquest
The Nazis didn’t just appear in Germany fully formed. Read about The Weimar Republic in the 1930s.
We’re long past the “attempted” takeover.
The threshold of Nazi takeover could reasonably be taken to be the Enabling Act. There has been no equivalent in the US.
What a load of sludgy shit. “from our position” - this a group statement or…? Kinda seems like you got an AI to take your position and write a comment for you - what’s that called again? Nice prompt LLM master.
Firstly,
Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.
Know that do you? Besides, hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.
Beginning In the 1920’s and through the '30’s, years before the Nazis committed “genocide and conquest” the brown shirts and other groups walked through the streets of Germany intimidating and committing acts of violence against those they persecuted and those who disagreed with them. That’s where we are now - or at least where some want to take us - so yes, punch the shit out of Nazi scum and their sympathizers.
Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?
hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.
Pull the other one. Violence has a meaning that every English-speaker understands, and hatred does not meet that definition.
Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?
Well, the KPD strategy of meeting them in street brawls went so well, didn’t it?
That’s where we are now
So, given that you just issued me a challenge about what I’d do, do I take it you’re out in the street roughing up anyone with a MAGA hat?
If not, then I think you actually understand and agree on a practical level: the situation in the US is not as clear cut as the fight against the Nazis ended up, and which people wish to invoke when they say “punch a Nazi.”
The worst part is the Contributor Quality Score, which is the subjective version of karma.
If you’re not a bot, then you have to spend a lot of real time producing acceptable content to get to do anything YOU want to do. You literally have to grind Reddit to be able to post in some subs, even if your account is older than the hills and has positive karma.
Thank you for including a link; this sounds like a fucking joke.
Hate that shit, Reddit’s decline started when individual users started to become sanctioned superusers and did away with the veil of equal-ish participation.
Generally all things done there to scale your feed based on recent activity suck too.
It’s infuriating how much time and energy is extracted from everyone chasing hidden and arbitrary metrics that serve some opaque corporate interest.
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Now Reddit is adding AI and streaks
The users have plenty of streaks in their underwear.
White streaks mainly.
All my favorite niches have gone to Discord.
Freaking Discord. A black hole where anything useful is buried under mountains of folks shooting the breeze. Oh, and with a useless search function.
Every. Single. Niche. Even self-hosting ones like localllama.
Reddit may be dead and enshittified, but at least it was accessible to search engines :(
Hardly matters though, as they just randomly shadowban me anyway…
Yeah I still don’t get why people use Discord, it’s so shitty and knowledge just gets locked up there to die
Well look here, for instance:
https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1mpk2va/announcing_localllama_discord_server_bot/
Looks like a combination of:
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A power trippin’ mod looking to promote their discord.
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A feeling of nowhere else to go as Reddit enshittifies.
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Unawareness that https://sh.itjust.works/c/localllama exists because Reddit shadow bans anyone who links Lemmy.
And this is literally a self-hosting community… Look at the comments, they all know Discord is bad, but the mood is “WTF else are ya gonna do?”
For some context, localllama itself is kinda a refuge from Twitter/Linkedin spaces filled with Tech Bro stink, and it’s already been shattered by random niche LLM Discords (like BeaverAI, which you will find in another thread).
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I recently downloaded a mod for a game from a custom content creator who hosted their own webpage. I experienced issues, so I went to see if there was a support page of common issues. Instead, their “support” was a link to their Discord server.
Which means instead of an FAQ page, or an email account that they could respond to in their own time, this person preferred to moderate a live chatroom where people ask the same questions over and over again? On the one hand, as a user of their cc, it’s reassuring to have someone who worked on the content there to live-answer any questions. I got my problem solved quickly, so the user experience is definitely positive. On the other hand, I would’ve thought keeping up essentially a “customer support” Discord to be far more tedious and frustrating than maintaining other common alternatives.
I just can’t imagine having the time and energy to stay on top of a Discord where everyone is upset and you have to repeat yourself constantly. It sounds like a living Hell.
Same reason people never bothered to do a proper search when all knowledge on the internet was indexed on forums - people can’t be bothered, and want another person to find information for them before they make a real effort to find it themselves.
I wonder if discord shuts down due to lets say its predator problem, will this be a library of alexandria type event? Obviously wed attempt to grab as much as we can before the “library” burns down, but how? To my understanding every server owner would have to install a bot to grab all of that data themselves.
Someone please tell me im wrong and why because I hate this.
a library of alexandria type event
It already feels like that, because useful knowledge just fades away into chitchat in Discord.
But yeah, I think it would be. There are already some scraping tools (and apparently, some chat archives built by hackers), but without some crazy hack, there’s just no way around communities being invite only.
I think it really boils down to the owners of the servers doing the right thing. I mean that in terms of properly organizing the important information on their server and archiving it elsewhere simulateously.
Otherwise yeah I agree its just a furnace In which data is being shoveled into, Rather than a single event as I implied.
Again, someone knowlegable please tell me we are wrong, and a solution exists, or is in development.
they will probably go to facebook,
Probably, but im more concerned with archiving the years of information being poured into the platform.
We need forums back.
oh yea, some ytber tried to get people in a sub that was criticizing them to thier DISCORD, everyone knew they were trying to silence them, glad people stuck around and kept the sub around.
Adding NFT? In 2025? They really are desperate…
Isn’t it amazing that Reddit Gold was actually one of their better ideas to derive income from users?
they want to paywall subs eventually, plus becoming a facebook clone down the line, where the datamining features included, like requiring your REAL ID, facial recognition, i suspect thier bannings propensity will get more intense as facebook too.
like requiring your REAL ID
Remember when you didn’t even need to give an email address to sign up?
They already require your real ID if you are in the UK
NFT is kinda old thing? Got one for free in 2022 and can find info about from 2021. The only notable thing was required password for gosh darn thing.
Got one for free
That’s the main problem. NFTs are almost free to create.
Reddit died imo when they limited API calls for app developers who made incredible 3rd party apps for the platform. Maybe theyve since fixed it, I wouldnt know since I felt cheated having supported baconreader and boost for their hard work in making the reddit exerience feel so premium. I tried the official reddit app and It was buggy garbage at the time. So IMO they pushed away a good chunk of their userbase even before the whole politicapocolypse, bann waves, community removals, etc.
While lemmy is not a perfect replacement in terms of numbers. I feel that every upvote and comment has more meaning here. People here are generally more productive and insightful. It makes me wonder how much bot traffic reddit had prior to the changes. Selfishly I kind of hope lemmy stays where it is in terms of popularity. You all seem generally really cool and It would be hard to find the real ones In the sea of reddit-esque nonsense.
Firing Victoria was the beginning of the end.
Cake day: 23 October 2023
Guess what made me leave lol
halloween?
Hey, fuck you man, I’m not cool, you’re cool!
I was a daily redditor since mid-2011, but I had no issue dropping it the day they announced the third-party api changes and came over to lemmy soon after. I could see the writing on the wall with that change.
So glad Boost exists for Lemmy.
Same! Boost Is definitely the best ive found. Even the free version is incredible the ads only apear in a tiny box at the bottom in the comments section. Super unintrusive, I supported Immediately after testing out other options and landing back on boost.
I just wish they could somehow implement saving posts and going back through upvoted content similar to how it worked on reddit, but i understand that there are probably technical limitations and less financial insentive.
I got Boost once they released the Lemmy version, and then I got one single PragerU ad. That pissed me off, a lot, those shitheads are my enemies. I basically coin-flipped between picking a different app that wouldn’t give ad space to those pricks, and just buying the ad-free thing, but laziness prevailed and I bought the thing instead. Still on Boost to this day.
Fuck advertising, the entire advertising industry, and the plain concept of forcing your brand in front of a person’s eyes non-consentually, should all disappear in the future.
the ads only apear in a tiny box at the bottom in the comments section. Super unintrusive
…You folks tolerate ads? Just use Voyager. It has post+comment saving, and no ads. It even has user tags.
I tried voyager, Its missing post viewing modes that I loved from boost and baconreader. I do not tolerate ads that is slander lol, I did a 1x payment to support the devs and now dont get any ads, If they update voyager with the features i need, Ill do the same.
Try Summit, at this point it’s a pretty effective boost killer and also foss.
It’s developed at a high pace (which is why it reached boost killer status quite recently imo) so if you miss any feature you can request it and probably see it added in a week or two.
Same, you can verify by checking my reddit under the same name.
Mine only goes back 11 years as I did that cool thing where you delete your account and start fresh each year for a few years.
I do like how the only times I’ve used it since is to shill Lemmy and apparently abusing a monarchist.
it was the same time, a article reported that reddit was mostly 50% bots, what acoincidence. i can see it being bots mostly, because many subs have a bot posts people were accusing it of. non-propaganda bots can come in the hundreds, or thousands of account by 1 individual too.
Interested if you have an article or video you are referencing here, would love to read/watch
Yeah I also hope Lemmy doesnt get more popular. This is a good group.
It can be a little more popular imo. We’re still just under the “critical mass” needed to get more niche instances in good shape in terms of users and discussion
I feel kind of bad though everyone should feel this sense of community.
You can if you go outside and make friends.
Ew.
True, Generally I meet people though hyper-specific hobbies like fighting games or MTG. All of which have a pretty sizable upfront cost to enjoy. Not to mention the events are usually at a store, restaraunt, venue etc. All of which costs money. Im finding it harder and harder to justify financially and I cant imagine its much better for anyone else.
too bad most of them are on reddit subs.
Yeah. I like MTG too. But what I try to do is make at least one new close friend every year. And then I’ll do stuff like host barbecues and shit and make friends with their friends. And my friend group expands. And then I have people to go jogging with or go on hikes with or go camping with or even just sit around and play cards with, all very cheap things to do. And I have a massive friend group now.
You have to put effort in though if you want that sense of community. It doesn’t just spontaneously happen to you.
Im glad thats working for you and I hope that someone reads this and gets value out of it. but no offense I think we just live entirely different lifestyles and value different things.
I will agree that your lifestyle is definitely healthier for the community at large, and politically speaking your local area is healthier having you and others socializing about or engaging with current events.
I think outliers like myself must exist in some way. While nothing I produce currently is on the same level as lets say an artist or musician. Someday I will write, program, or even just share something ive made that gives me the value and purpose I seek.
Selfish? probably, but I am constantly learning about new things and perspectives. Lemmy just happens to be a highway into other peoples minds that I very much enjoy. I did not mean to imply that I desire the same level of social belonging that others have. Ive got my family, animals, significant other, all of my remaining energy belongs to them.
Heck maybe im an asshole and youre about to slap me with a truth bomb, and thats why im here.
Art and music are not the only things of value to share with society. You can build or farm or create other things of value that you are proud of that are beneficial to society. Social structures and building community are also insanely valuable and our loss of this is one of the big reasons our society is becoming distant and segregated and weakened against oppression. An online space is not a good replacement for this, especially in the current social climate of the world and the current technological situation. Like enjoy it, but it’s candy, it’s an unhealthy substitute for the real thing. But I do also understand how tiresome the world is and I think we can all enjoy a little bit of guilty pleasure when you’re too tired to do anything else. But you absolutely have to recognize it for what it is.
That was the major sign post, indeed
Can’t up vote you harder or enough times.
Have my love ❤️
oh, stop it you <3. In all seriousness though this whole post’s comment section Is just proof of what im saying. Gotta spread that love around Im just saying what we all kind of silently agree on.
Exactly. There are some people budding straight off of Reddit culture that still haven’t read the room here, but I try to tell them if possible, otherwise I just block. 😌 We need to foster the culture in this place. It takes a village.
You forgot the “woah there partner” vpn block page
I just remembered the one that really pisses me off: ‘to use reddit anonymously you must log in’.
Like cant you just give me a “are you a robot” test and let me use a VPN???
Yeah this pisses me off so bad when I need to search for something and the only answers are on reddit. Is there a way around this?
I use RedLib but I make it even easier by having an extension LibRidirect that automatically redirects reddit links to privacy frontends such as RedLib. It’s really easy to use and I don’t even have to think about using Reddit ever again. Win-win in my book.
Oh my god, you’re a LIFESAVER for the LibRidirect link, thank you! Fucking Instagram and Quora links piss me off too!
Partner or pardner?
Since everyone knows it is pardner, it is just assumed that we will automatically do the translation in our heads:-P
Reddit died with Aaron. The fact you’re still trying to milk Internet points from that site, using Reddit-style, low effort posting, only reveals you’re the kind of user that ruined it in the first place.
Don’t Reddit my Lemmy
Aaron was about as much a cofounder of reddit as Musk is a cofounder of tesla. Source: I was on reddit when he joined and I remember his own yc-startup Infogami.
reddit apparently is still valuable for people to make money off using bots, that arnt propaganda bots. it just involves getting enough people to get on yuor OF accounts, or if your using links to your business website. of course these bots usually wont target the large subs for recognition, because you mostly will be easily banned and filtered out from the famous subs very quickly, they use obscure ones where reddit wouldnt immediately notice them.
Before the API thing there was only one “am I the asshole” subreddit.
now theres like 4 of them, most of them are bots, or written by a person that is gauging peoples reaction(for thier personal projects)
What happened? Did the original mods protest and reddit itself just make a new one? I know there were alot of communities that shut down for a day or two when the API changes happened.
i remember the original AITA was private for a while, then came out AITAH, and then AIO, and then a couple of other ones.
Reddit has been on a slow, steady downward trajectory for over a decade. However, it was the rampant engagement bots nagging me with inane questions that drove me away. That, and overzealous moderation deleting comments and dishing out temporary bans for the lamest reasons. Reddit used to be the place where smart and funny people hung out and shared. Now it’s just another bland social media site trying to wring the greatest profit out the unwashed masses.
started in 2017, around the same time 45 first term. subs started to have very inflammatory content, so they start banning anyone that remotely they think, its offensive in that Political climate. just like you cant use the word, black, and demographic word in certain context.
