Except that being forgetful isn’t something you can magically fix. Take it from someone with severe ADHD, I wish I weren’t as forgetful as I am, but there is nothing I can do about that for most things. “Resolve it early” is such an ableist and completely dismissive take that I can’t see how anyone would ever believe that’s a legitimate answer.
That isn’t what the post is about. It’s about the fact that society (specifically neurotypicals) believe that fulfilling the expectations of what others have for you is more important than your own happiness. That is the product of late stage capitalism, and is an utterly depressing way of viewing people. It distills people into simply the role that they serve for you, dehumanizing us. You can’t seriously be defending that? “Oh, you have a complaint about how the world works? I don’t care, learn to deal with it”. People are allowed to have disagreements about how things work and point out the disservice it does to humanity. Your ignorance and dismissal of that fact is insensitive.
Still being dismissive; it’s very clear what they’re talking about, and you do nothing but whine about semantics by pointing this out.
Missing the point completely here. One should be allowed to decide who they show physical affection to. It is not our responsibility as humans to serve the needs of other people against our will, yet that is exactly what we are expected to do.
Where is this one even coming from? I see nothing here about intimacy with strangers. If you’re going in order through this list, I can only assume you’re talking about the point discussing informing people of your preferences? I don’t see anything intimate about that whatsoever. I certainly don’t see anything even remotely alluding to “unloading your worries” onto them.
Etiquette, at its core, was invented by the rich as a way to seem superior to the poor. It exists solely to enforce classism through meaningless mannerisms that serve no positive function. It exists to serve rich people with a superiority complex, and to degrade those of lower class. It isn’t a form of respect; it’s an artificial system that was created so the rich can look down at the “uncivilized” poor.
See? I can be dismissive of your entire comment, too. Except my points have an actual basis in reality, which seems to be missing from much of your comment. :3
What are you doing here, anyway? You see a post indicating the things that someone has learned through childhood trauma, and just make it your mission to invalidate all of their experiences? For those of us who have experienced the same trauma (mostly us neurodivergent folks), this post serves as a relatable way to lighten our mood, by acknowledging our shared trauma. There is nothing “dark” or “upsetting” about this to anyone with a soul. If your first instinct when hearing about the grievances someone has with the world is to attack them for speaking their truth, then I hardly have to wonder what kind of person you are.
It’s not about magically fixing forgetfulness. It’s more about exploring the subject from every angle. Accepting it can’t be done should only happen after everything has been done. But it doesn’t mean the exploration should ever stop.
You bringing up society as a united front when it’s been made more and more clear how disjointed it really is makes me chuckle.
Every culture has its set of rules. Every group of any kind looks to instill its own private little values into the tolerated mainstream. And the mainstream is just a hodge-podge of ideas that some will fight to the death to defend for some dumb reason.
If you feel dehumanized for any reason, then that’s an issue of your own self worth that you should look to solve.
You see whining and semantics. Why can’t I do the same? Or am I not allowed for some odd reason?
Rest is associated with sleep. Because most people can’t sit with an empty mind. They think, they plan, they worry. This way the body might regain some energy, but the mind will still exhaust itself.
A restful activity is meant to relax the mind as well as the body. It’s slower, yet more balanced.
How would that lack a basis in reality?
I never said one shouldn’t show physical affection towards those they care for. I gave an example as to why someone would do it differently. It’s not a blame game. Different people have different priorities. If you can’t understand why they would do things differently, why do you expect for them to do so for you?
By saying you’re different, one would expect that comes with the understanding the same can be said for the one you differentiate from.
You’re different from them, they’re different from you. Or else, you’re not?
Interacting with someone and telling them your likes or needs is a form of intimacy. You intimate to them details of yourself. That creates a superficial from of burden where they decide whether to respect or reject these preferences.
This might be particular to specific situations because it depends on one’s own outlook on things.
Can’t say i understand it much myself, I threw it out there because it seemed to fit at the time.
Etiquette, at its core, was invented as a personal religious ritual through which one grew closer with their worshiped spirits or gods. Later it separated and grew into a religious form of control, which the so-called nobility incorporated to showcase their “superiority”, but also into sets of organized rules in regards to certain practices.
Medicine relied on etiquette to promote the washing of hands before eating, using clean utensils instead bare hands.
Education relied on etiquette to promote the correct methods of using and maintaining learning materials.
Etiquette, at its core, is order among the chaos.
Disparaging it because it was practiced by those you don’t like doesn’t help your arguments.
There is little of my reality in your points. And i presume there is little of your reality in mine.
Our perceptions of the world don’t match. But make no mistake, i make no attempt to dismiss yours, it’s just that we’re different in train of thought and so, can’t really understand each other all that well.
Except that being forgetful isn’t something you can magically fix. Take it from someone with severe ADHD, I wish I weren’t as forgetful as I am, but there is nothing I can do about that for most things. “Resolve it early” is such an ableist and completely dismissive take that I can’t see how anyone would ever believe that’s a legitimate answer.
That isn’t what the post is about. It’s about the fact that society (specifically neurotypicals) believe that fulfilling the expectations of what others have for you is more important than your own happiness. That is the product of late stage capitalism, and is an utterly depressing way of viewing people. It distills people into simply the role that they serve for you, dehumanizing us. You can’t seriously be defending that? “Oh, you have a complaint about how the world works? I don’t care, learn to deal with it”. People are allowed to have disagreements about how things work and point out the disservice it does to humanity. Your ignorance and dismissal of that fact is insensitive.
Still being dismissive; it’s very clear what they’re talking about, and you do nothing but whine about semantics by pointing this out.
Missing the point completely here. One should be allowed to decide who they show physical affection to. It is not our responsibility as humans to serve the needs of other people against our will, yet that is exactly what we are expected to do.
Where is this one even coming from? I see nothing here about intimacy with strangers. If you’re going in order through this list, I can only assume you’re talking about the point discussing informing people of your preferences? I don’t see anything intimate about that whatsoever. I certainly don’t see anything even remotely alluding to “unloading your worries” onto them.
Etiquette, at its core, was invented by the rich as a way to seem superior to the poor. It exists solely to enforce classism through meaningless mannerisms that serve no positive function. It exists to serve rich people with a superiority complex, and to degrade those of lower class. It isn’t a form of respect; it’s an artificial system that was created so the rich can look down at the “uncivilized” poor.
See? I can be dismissive of your entire comment, too. Except my points have an actual basis in reality, which seems to be missing from much of your comment. :3
What are you doing here, anyway? You see a post indicating the things that someone has learned through childhood trauma, and just make it your mission to invalidate all of their experiences? For those of us who have experienced the same trauma (mostly us neurodivergent folks), this post serves as a relatable way to lighten our mood, by acknowledging our shared trauma. There is nothing “dark” or “upsetting” about this to anyone with a soul. If your first instinct when hearing about the grievances someone has with the world is to attack them for speaking their truth, then I hardly have to wonder what kind of person you are.
It’s not about magically fixing forgetfulness. It’s more about exploring the subject from every angle. Accepting it can’t be done should only happen after everything has been done. But it doesn’t mean the exploration should ever stop.
You bringing up society as a united front when it’s been made more and more clear how disjointed it really is makes me chuckle. Every culture has its set of rules. Every group of any kind looks to instill its own private little values into the tolerated mainstream. And the mainstream is just a hodge-podge of ideas that some will fight to the death to defend for some dumb reason. If you feel dehumanized for any reason, then that’s an issue of your own self worth that you should look to solve.
You see whining and semantics. Why can’t I do the same? Or am I not allowed for some odd reason? Rest is associated with sleep. Because most people can’t sit with an empty mind. They think, they plan, they worry. This way the body might regain some energy, but the mind will still exhaust itself. A restful activity is meant to relax the mind as well as the body. It’s slower, yet more balanced. How would that lack a basis in reality?
I never said one shouldn’t show physical affection towards those they care for. I gave an example as to why someone would do it differently. It’s not a blame game. Different people have different priorities. If you can’t understand why they would do things differently, why do you expect for them to do so for you? By saying you’re different, one would expect that comes with the understanding the same can be said for the one you differentiate from. You’re different from them, they’re different from you. Or else, you’re not?
Interacting with someone and telling them your likes or needs is a form of intimacy. You intimate to them details of yourself. That creates a superficial from of burden where they decide whether to respect or reject these preferences. This might be particular to specific situations because it depends on one’s own outlook on things. Can’t say i understand it much myself, I threw it out there because it seemed to fit at the time.
Etiquette, at its core, was invented as a personal religious ritual through which one grew closer with their worshiped spirits or gods. Later it separated and grew into a religious form of control, which the so-called nobility incorporated to showcase their “superiority”, but also into sets of organized rules in regards to certain practices. Medicine relied on etiquette to promote the washing of hands before eating, using clean utensils instead bare hands. Education relied on etiquette to promote the correct methods of using and maintaining learning materials. Etiquette, at its core, is order among the chaos. Disparaging it because it was practiced by those you don’t like doesn’t help your arguments.
There is little of my reality in your points. And i presume there is little of your reality in mine. Our perceptions of the world don’t match. But make no mistake, i make no attempt to dismiss yours, it’s just that we’re different in train of thought and so, can’t really understand each other all that well.