Like the commenter above said … having that water sit stale in about 50 feet of hose for about a week or two or longer and depending on where it was placed, being heated by the sun and cooled every night.
As a rule of thumb, if you ever want to try this, run the hose for about five minutes first.
Five minutes? It should take about 30 seconds to run numerous gallons through. I think project farm was testing hose nozzles and he was getting 5 gallons in less than a minute.
Just looked him up. He reminds me too much about the tv-shop salespeople. Kinda yelling at me, speaking really fast and stopping just a bit too long after the end of a sentance.
I’ve mostly stopped watching, right around the time I stopped buying so much shit I don’t need, but I did see him testing the hose sprayers like that which is why I mentioned him.
Ah, I saw this and was thrown off because I grew up on a farm where the hose was used for everything. In thinking about it, my better judgement wouldn’t consider drinking from the hose I keep at the apartment for a second, even if I’d been using it all day 🤢. That sits for months at a time gathering who-knows-what.
Ehh I have well water and the outside spigots bypass all the filtering/softening systems in my basement cause why burn filter cycles cleaning groundwater to spray back on the ground
And lots of weird/toxic shit in hoses that isn’t lead (like plasticizers etc), because of the manufacturing process. And because hoses aren’t by default regulated for Safe Water standards.
I have never seen a brass spigot that wasn’t threaded on the supply side. And as for the chemicals, as there are no less than twenty other comments talking about it, allow me to repeat this. We didn’t drink out of hot hoses! I’m going to say this is one of very few statistical absolutes that you will ever witness in the wild, cause there is literally 0 kids who drank the water immediately after it started running. Once the house is flushed with cool water, the phthalate level drops asymptotically. Does it reach 0? Absolutely not. Is it equivalent to water from any soft plastic container like a camel back? Might be less because, again, the water is running!
At my childhood home, I wouldn’t drink the tap inside without a filter either. And my parents don’t trust it even if it has been through a filter. Only reason I’d drink directly from the outside faucet is if I’m really in need of water and there’s no other viable option.
I’m not saying the person you’re replying to isn’t being a bit obtuse, but the water in your house that you drink should be running through copper or in newer homes, PEX which is HDPE, not PVC.
I was speaking from a western viewpoint. I had no idea that the Middle East used uPVC in their treated water systems. I will point out that uPVC isn’t PVC. It’s a coated pvc that has different properties which seems to be what the researchers are studying.
In any case, very sorry you have to deal with that over there. We use copper in all western countries I’ve heard of (though lead is still in existing systems in places like Chicago).
I’m not middle eastern, but plastic pipes are really common in new builds in north america now too. Garden hoses are largely made out of PVC so the same risks apply
You were talking about PVC. PVC is not the same as HDPE. It’s not the same as PE, PP, etc.
When you say plastic you include a bunch of stuff that you probably don’t mean to. Plastic refers to any material primarily composed of polymers. The coating inside your cast iron pan when you season it using food oil like avocado oil is a plastic.
North American households don’t use pvc. They use HDPE. They’re not even remotely the same. The risks are completely different, just like the difference between styrofoam and rubber.
I’m not talking about plastic household pipes though - I was clarifying that they are more common than copper now on new builds. NA pipes are PEX from what I’ve been able to dig up.
Garden hoses - my main focus in my comments - are still made out of PVC
That’s not always the case. If a house has a well and later gets water from a utility, they will often keep exterior taps running well water because it’s a lot cheaper than abandoning the well. So, technically, you could have water that’s safe to drink inside the house but still have unsafe water outside.
Also, if the house has filters or other water treatment that generally isn’t used for the exterior (though that’s typically more about taste and mineral content, rather than anything hazardous).
The tap outside is the same water you drink from the tap inside why would you need a filter
No its not
Like the commenter above said … having that water sit stale in about 50 feet of hose for about a week or two or longer and depending on where it was placed, being heated by the sun and cooled every night.
As a rule of thumb, if you ever want to try this, run the hose for about five minutes first.
Run it until it’s cold. You don’t need 5 minutes.
5 minutes!? Jesus Christ, it clears out in about 10 seconds.
Some people are just really overcautious. I’m not sure why but Reddit was basiclaly known for that.
It depends on the hose and the flow rate. They can vary a lot.
Also, your not just clearing the stagnant water, but also anything that was growing in it.
Five minutes? It should take about 30 seconds to run numerous gallons through. I think project farm was testing hose nozzles and he was getting 5 gallons in less than a minute.
God I want to like him so bad! Like he tests all the stuff that’s right up my alley. But I can not stand his voice and jumpy editing.
Just looked him up. He reminds me too much about the tv-shop salespeople. Kinda yelling at me, speaking really fast and stopping just a bit too long after the end of a sentance.
Idk, might be super cool though.
I’ve mostly stopped watching, right around the time I stopped buying so much shit I don’t need, but I did see him testing the hose sprayers like that which is why I mentioned him.
Ah, I saw this and was thrown off because I grew up on a farm where the hose was used for everything. In thinking about it, my better judgement wouldn’t consider drinking from the hose I keep at the apartment for a second, even if I’d been using it all day 🤢. That sits for months at a time gathering who-knows-what.
Ehh I have well water and the outside spigots bypass all the filtering/softening systems in my basement cause why burn filter cycles cleaning groundwater to spray back on the ground
People used to eat lead paint chips, too. Now they run our government.
Can you describe where the lead chips from tap water going through rubber comes from?
In brass fittings and brass spigots, for one.
And lots of weird/toxic shit in hoses that isn’t lead (like plasticizers etc), because of the manufacturing process. And because hoses aren’t by default regulated for Safe Water standards.
I have never seen a brass spigot that wasn’t threaded on the supply side. And as for the chemicals, as there are no less than twenty other comments talking about it, allow me to repeat this. We didn’t drink out of hot hoses! I’m going to say this is one of very few statistical absolutes that you will ever witness in the wild, cause there is literally 0 kids who drank the water immediately after it started running. Once the house is flushed with cool water, the phthalate level drops asymptotically. Does it reach 0? Absolutely not. Is it equivalent to water from any soft plastic container like a camel back? Might be less because, again, the water is running!
Same people that made the microplastics, duh
Apparently it’s the hose that’s the problem, something about it breaking down or whatnot.
Well obviously, it’s probably depressed from getting called a hoes all the time.
Me talking to the garden hose:
At my childhood home, I wouldn’t drink the tap inside without a filter either. And my parents don’t trust it even if it has been through a filter. Only reason I’d drink directly from the outside faucet is if I’m really in need of water and there’s no other viable option.
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The garden hoses are made out of PVC, and It leaches into the water passing though it
That’s the hose flavor
Like the pvc pipes inside the house? 🤦🏼
I’m not saying the person you’re replying to isn’t being a bit obtuse, but the water in your house that you drink should be running through copper or in newer homes, PEX which is HDPE, not PVC.
Carry on.
How am I being obtuse? Eat citations:
https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9717/7/10/641
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13201-022-01751-y - this one’s for household pipes
Plastics are bad for us, no matter how you slice it. Even seemingly stable ones carry risk
I was speaking from a western viewpoint. I had no idea that the Middle East used uPVC in their treated water systems. I will point out that uPVC isn’t PVC. It’s a coated pvc that has different properties which seems to be what the researchers are studying.
In any case, very sorry you have to deal with that over there. We use copper in all western countries I’ve heard of (though lead is still in existing systems in places like Chicago).
I’m not middle eastern, but plastic pipes are really common in new builds in north america now too. Garden hoses are largely made out of PVC so the same risks apply
You were talking about PVC. PVC is not the same as HDPE. It’s not the same as PE, PP, etc.
When you say plastic you include a bunch of stuff that you probably don’t mean to. Plastic refers to any material primarily composed of polymers. The coating inside your cast iron pan when you season it using food oil like avocado oil is a plastic.
North American households don’t use pvc. They use HDPE. They’re not even remotely the same. The risks are completely different, just like the difference between styrofoam and rubber.
I’m not talking about plastic household pipes though - I was clarifying that they are more common than copper now on new builds. NA pipes are PEX from what I’ve been able to dig up.
Garden hoses - my main focus in my comments - are still made out of PVC
That’s not always the case. If a house has a well and later gets water from a utility, they will often keep exterior taps running well water because it’s a lot cheaper than abandoning the well. So, technically, you could have water that’s safe to drink inside the house but still have unsafe water outside.
Also, if the house has filters or other water treatment that generally isn’t used for the exterior (though that’s typically more about taste and mineral content, rather than anything hazardous).