• GreenShimada@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    It’s clear none of you all have dealt with horses IRL.

    If you shake a plastic bag at a car, it doesn’t spook and run over 4 kids and then crash into a wall. A car doesn’t randomly decide to eject you into the street. A car doesn’t stop to poop. I love horses, but c’mon.

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      Horses get their drunk riders home all the time here, I have seen them about to pass out, practically sleeping on the horse.

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        Not saying there’s no benefits, I’m saying that it’s not all benefits. I’ve just seen horses do idiot things and almost kill themselves and spook and be the generally panicky prey animals that they are.

        Plus, how the hell am I supposed to tie a free couch I found on the side of the road to the top of a horse and get that home?

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            You can have them pull a little carriage if you spend about 3 months training them to deal with the sound behind them and harness.

            I have family that tried this because they “gOt a gUd dEaL!” on a wagon with car tires (part of their apocalypse prepping stuff) and ended up getting a mule because none of their 3 horses could stand the wagon.

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      A car doesn’t stop to poop

      Because a car doesn’t have a sphincter, so they just fart and dribble a little, all of the time.

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      A car doesn’t stop to poop.

      This gave me weird mental imagery.

      And it’s probably a fetish on the Internet somewhere.

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      I’ve never dealt with horses but i don’t know why people to expect horses to be like this when you realise that any animal is not going to act the same even within the same species

      Horses are animals

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      Where I live, you can get a DUI and lose your driver’s license if using a bicycle drunk.

      Not that I agree with it. Not that I’ve ever seen it enforced. But the law is there.

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        Where I live you can’t get a DUI on a bike, no limit, but if you’re too drunk to be able to operate it while trying to operate it in traffic, you’re endangering others, which is a traffic violation and will possibly cause you to lose your licence.

        Or I mean, that used to be the case, actually, but now I suddenly recall it may have been amended in the past few years, entirely because of the rent-a-scoots, which are comparable to bikes and which everyone used to take home after bars. And still prolly do. Now they’ve limited the speed to 16kph at night though. Helps, some, I guess, but is really annoying if you’re sober and want to ride one at night.

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          I don’t even want to begin to think about the legal complexities around the electric powered transportation.

          But I know if you’re caught operating one while drunk, it’s automatically way worse than if you were just biking. Because they’re “self-propellent” or however you want to put it.

          Anyone under 16 is required by law to wear a helmet while biking. So they’re also required by law to wear a helmet while riding an electric scooter.

          Surprisingly I have not heard of electric scooter incidents lately. But probably just a matter of time until someone drives themselves to death on them.

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            Because they’re “self-propellent” or however you want to put it.

            Nothing like that here.

            Escoots and ebikes are limited to 25kmh per law, so they’re roughly equivalent to regular bikes.

            If its more than 25kg or can go faster than 25kph,you need to insure it. (somewhat new law)

            And everyone here is legally required to wear a bike helmet, but it’s not an enforced law.

            of electric scooter incidents lately.

            You guys don’t drink like northern Europeans

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          A drunk passenger is not controlling the vehicle, thus not meeting the ‘D’ requirement of a DUI. A horse rider does indeed control the horse, even if the horse isn’t actively receiving driving instructions from the controller.

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    I wonder what’s the break-even cost of gas when it’s more affordable to go back to horses again.

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      To people who had never known any other way to travel than on foot, the horse was a major upgrade. To people accustomed to mechanized transportation, the horse is a major downgrade. Maintenance costs are one thing but the time requirements are what really makes it not affordable.

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        I think I’d you get a horse it’d be because you’re into the ‘hobby’ of taking care of animals and everything that entails.

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      There’s a reason we have the term ‘horse money’, let’s put it like that.

      You take a chihuahua to the vet, it’s going to cost you a couple hundred bucks. But a horse isn’t a chihuahua. The bills scale exponentially. Then there’s the stabling costs, transportation, farrier, tack, etc. Etc. Buying a horse is the dumbest thing you can do except for buying a boat.

      Basically, all in, figure on something between 8k and 10k per year. Assuming good health, you can ride a horse daily, but they’re not exactly convenient for your grocery shopping. Though I have done a drive through on one :D

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        So a horse is cheaper than a car. The average yearly cost of car ownership in the us is around $12k in the US.

        This includes car depreciation, insurance, maintenance …

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          True! Not to mention depreciation. But I guess you’d also have to consider the horse has a hard limit of working time before you have to replace them.

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        Ok, so 15K miles/year isn’t uncommon, 3USD/gallon is close to average, 25 mpg is optimistic.

        So currently the average american is paying 1,800 for 600 gallons a year. So roughly 5x, without considering cost of maintenance and depreciation.

        But then you have bikes. A Honda Wave gets like 160 mpg.

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          Fuck, I forgot about bikes. You’re right, bikes are the real deal breaker for horses.

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            Hell, forget motorbikes, even bicycles would make it hard to justify horse costs. And I bet they are superior for range and speed (average, at least, not so sure about max, and obviously it requires a rider in good enough shape, but I think you’ll get there if you ride regularly, assuming no disabilities).

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      From what I recall horses require:

      • Training on how to ride a horse
      • Suitable land area for the horse to graze
      • A stable and land to build a stable
      • Food and water
      • Potential vet bills
      • Regular health checkup bills
      • Potential medicine bills
      • Horse shoes and replacement horse shoes
      • Supplements for dietary needs horses can’t easily get from their food
      • Horseriding gear

      Keep in mind that I’m not involved with horses at all, this is just what I’ve learned with my exposure to them on the Internet

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        From what I recall horses require: * Training on how to ride a horse

        Picturing you riding a horse that is riding another horse. Extended range upgrade?

        Though on a serious note, there’s also the horse itself and its training (to be ridden and not freak out about things, training it to ride another horse or series of horses optional).

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          I mean, to be fair, you also have to learn how to ride bikes and motorcycles. But those would be much cheaper too.

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      There’s a family near me in the UK which rides a horse and trap round town. See them parked at the supermarket all the time.

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      Tesla has been known to trap people in cars after fault with electrics or loss of signal (in the case of a Lamborghini)

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    7 days ago

    How this meme would look like in the world of umamusume? (Real horses don’t exist, only the horse girls)

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      Technically every conscious thing on earth with the ability to learn has software updates

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        Yes but we typically don’t freeze for undetermined periods at a time as we do so. We can learn and function at the same time. Like Linux.

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          There are seizures, but I think those are more akin to BSOD than updates. Though I bet epilepsy would be more fun if you woke up with new skills and capabilities after each seizure.

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            or in the case of Windows and iOS, progressively more lobotomized after each stroke